Episode 196
Swipe Right for Radio: Eryn Cooper's 5 Essential Tips for Media's Future
This time, we feature Nashville’s Multimedia Queen.
WSM-AM's Eryn Cooper, a multimedia journalist, morning show producer, emerging radio personality, and self-proclaimed "professional fan." Eryn discusses her career path, how she's advanced from radio newbie to assistant brand manager and on-air talent in just two years, and her current roles working for the Grand Ole Opry, Circle Country TV, and the Coffee, Country, and Cody Morning Show. She’s the kind of person who can “do it all”, from production and hosting to normalizing the “fangirl to professional fan” pipeline
Key Points You Won't Want to Miss:
[03:00] Eryn balances a variety of roles, from Nashville's Multimedia Queen to running her production company and engaging with stars at the Grand Ole Opry and WSM-AM.
[00:04:00] We learn how experiences in TV news, sports, CHR radio, and digital platforms storytelling have helped Eryn develop effective practices while learning to avoid common pitfalls.
[06:00] Eryn has observed several emerging trends shaping the future of multimedia journalism and marketing and advises us on how to prepare for navigating these changes.
[08:42] Eryn reveals how she enhances the Grand Ole Opry's outreach using digital strategies like social media to attract new audiences. Caution: this is NOT your parent's Social Media!
[00:09:55] We hear a lot about WORK/LIFE balance and Eryn explores how she practices it through her varied interests, such as fashion, baking, and charity work, which she shares on her website and social channels.
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Transcript
Storytelling is out of almost countless channels and touchpoints
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:now, whereas before we would turn on
the TV and we'd get the news, or we'd
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:turn on the AM or FM radio and get
the news or the stories of the day.
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:Obviously, social media is an
aspect of it where people are
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:going to find their stories.
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:In, in addition to, or instead of those
traditional channels, which I still
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:love, and my training is rooted in those
foundations, welcome to BRANDwidth On
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:Demand, your Guide to Rebooting Radio.
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:What I would encourage anyone who
wants to continue storytelling or
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:to start storytelling, no matter
your niche, no matter what stories
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:you wanna tell, there is an outlet
and a place for you to tell them
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:VO: BRANDwidth On Demand.
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:Rebooting radio with a different
take on all radio can be.
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:Now your guides through the media
morphosis, David Martin, and author
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:of the book, BRANDwidth On Demand,
media branding coach, Kipper McGee.
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:Dave: Well this time we peek
into the dynamic world of a
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:versatile, multimedia journalist,
producer, and radio personality.
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:In the span of two years, she's gone
from radio newbie, to assistant brand
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:manager, And on air talent at Nashville's
newest country station, Y'all 106.
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:7.
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:Now as Nashville's multimedia queen,
she produces for the grand old Opry and
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:circle country TV and one very special
radio station where she's part of the
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:Coffee Country and Cody morning show.
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:She's the kind of person who can
really do it all from production,
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:hosting, to normalizing the fan girl
to professional fan pipeline BRANDwidth
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:On Demand is proud to welcome digital
wizardess producer and host from the
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:most famed country station in the world.
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:The legendary BRANDwidth On Demand.
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:BRANDwidth On Demand Cooper.
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:Eryn: Yeah, that wassurreal
to hear you say, holy cow.
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:You're going to follow me every day
and wake me up with that as my alarm.
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:Motivate me.
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:Kipper: Well, and also CMA nominee.
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:Tell me, tell us about that.
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:Eryn: Oh my gosh.
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:Yes.
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:So for CRS, I am one of five folks.
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:The other four are just
absolute superstars.
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:I am nominated for the new face
of country award, which is.
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:Insane!
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:I still haven't processed it.
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:I'm just so beside myself and honored.
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:Kipper: So, besides being honored
and pretty soon having a big
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:award shelf to match all your, uh,
your records and stuff there that
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:you got, you wear a lot of hats.
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:I mean, how do you manage being
Nashville's multimedia queen plus running
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:your own production company working for
the big grand old Opry Enterprise and
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:also the stars that visit them all often.
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:How do you do it?
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:Eryn: Oh my gosh, it is
an acceptable answer.
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:I don't know how, uh, I, I
think the only explanation.
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:Uh, as Dave said, I am a professional fan
and that's all I've ever wanted to be.
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:I have been obsessed with music and
artists and bands and the culture and
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:phenomena around them my entire life.
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:And I never saw a way where I would have
a job that wasn't something I loved.
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:They're working in this industry
as the two of you know, you
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:can't do it if you don't love it.
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:And we certainly don't do it
for the glamor or the money.
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:Most of the time we do
it because we love it.
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:And so when I moved here two years
ago without a job, I told myself
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:I have no choice but to succeed.
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:So I fell in love with the process
and fell in love with working hard
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:and trying to do what I've always
wanted and make my dream a reality.
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:And by the grace of my incredible
support system and the powers
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:that be, I am doing it right now.
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:Dave: Right.
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:Well, BRANDwidth On Demand, your
background ranges from TV news to
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:sports, CHR radio, digital storytelling.
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:You really have done a lot.
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:How has your approach
to storytelling evolved?
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:Eryn: Oh my gosh.
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:The one thing that I think has stayed
the same is the base of it being myself.
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:Whenever I would go into an
interview, whether it be with.
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:A college or professional athlete or
coach, or when I worked in news, a local
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:leader or a world leader, and now with
artists, you get folks to open up to
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:you and to tell their story by you being
just as genuinely interested as you are.
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:You're not putting on an act.
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:You're not putting on a persona.
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:You're you and you're
interested and engaged.
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:So the first part of my answer is by that
being the core and that not changing.
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:Buddy.
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:Almost conversely, but also the
same, it's evolved by finding my
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:dream and finding my path into music.
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:I have felt more welcome to be
myself and leaning into that.
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:Whereas when I worked in news, for
instance, although an incredibly
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:pivotal and crucial experience in
my broadcast career, I'm too happy.
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:And I'm too fun to cover the
oftentimes very intense and
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:upsetting Base basis of new stories.
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:And I wasn't able to cover the
kinds of stories that spoke to me or
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:cover them in the way that I would
want to do it, because you have a
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:responsibility to tell stories a
certain way when you work in news.
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:And so leaning into being myself and just
embracing the excitement and the feelings
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:that I have towards different stories.
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:Kipper: So as a.
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:Kind of a one stop shop storyteller.
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:What trends do you see right
now kind of shaping the future
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:of multimedia journalism?
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:And how would you suggest those
following in your footsteps should
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:be, and how do you suggest those
following in your footsteps should
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:be preparing now for what's coming?
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:Eryn: Oh, wow.
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:Okay.
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:The obvious answer to that is,
is storytelling is out of almost
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:countless channels and touch points
now, whereas before we would turn on
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:the TV and we'd get the news or we'd
turn on the AM or FM radio and get
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:the news or the stories of the day.
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:Obviously.
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:Social media is an aspect of it
where people are going to find their
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:stories in addition to or instead
of those traditional channels,
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:which I still love and my training
is rooted in those foundations.
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:What I would encourage anyone who
wants to continue storytelling or to
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:start storytelling would be to lean
into and embrace these oftentimes
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:free tools we have, whether it
be TikTok, whether it be Reels.
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:I need to get more versed in
Twitch and those different ways
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:of streaming and broadcasting.
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:I was telling some radio colleagues the
other day, actually, Communication has
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:been evolving since the beginning of time.
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:The way that we talk to each other
and tell stories has been the main
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:way that society has evolved forever.
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:And it will continue to evolve us
as professional communicators, us
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:as broadcasters, don't we have a
responsibility to be ahead of the
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:curve and to adapt to communicating
and lead the way and encourage those
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:adaptions, right, or adaptations.
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:I think adaptions.
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:One of those two words.
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:I would just encourage anyone that is
weary of social media or thinks that
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:it's beyond them or that they're beyond
it to stay in touch with your ever
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:evolving audience and give it a try.
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:I think social media, although it can
be very polarizing and controversial,
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:I personally believe that social media
has a place for everybody and it's a
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:very inclusive environment and that's
why I love it so much and no matter
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:your niche, no matter what stories
you want to tell, there is an outlet
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:and a place for you to tell them
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:Dave: Well spoken, Eryn, you know,
let's talk for a moment about the
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:institution that is the Grand Old
Opry and your experience there.
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:How do you see digital strategies
like social media, which you
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:just spoke of and interactive?
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:Experiences, amplifying the
magic of that historic venue.
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:Eryn: Oh my gosh.
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:I see it as, as the way to continue
to pass down the history of it.
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:I just helped launch the Tik
Tok for WSM a few weeks ago.
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:And now, with the account only existing
for a short time, we have about 3, 000
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:followers, which granted is small in the
grand scheme of social media accounts,
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:but that's 3, 000 potentially newer people
that didn't know about the Grand Ole Opry.
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:And even if it's not all 3, 000,
there's got to be at least one person
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:that now knows about WSM and might've
become curious about the brand.
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:Researching it more and
wanting to learn more.
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:The Grand Ole Opry is the most historic
place for country music and social media
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:is going to keep carrying that history
forward and tell that story in new ways.
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:Kipper: Well, we can tell by
your website and social channels
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:that you're into a lot of stuff.
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:And by the way, we will link to those
in the show notes for the podcast.
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:But the question is.
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:Other hobbies help you maintain the
balance and creativity in your busy world.
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:What do you do to relax?
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:What else happens there?
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:Eryn: Oh my goodness.
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:Well, I know the both of you can
entirely relate as can many people
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:that, that work in this industry
or in any industry that you're in.
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:People bring home with them and
because they love it, uh, oftentimes
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:the hobbies bleed into it.
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:Uh, I would say going to concerts,
but I feel like that's related.
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:I love live music.
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:It is a huge reason why
I wanted to go into this.
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:I think concerts and live music is one of
the most uniting experiences, but if we're
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:gonna talk outside of music and outside of
listening to my records, which as you can
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:see, just cover my wall here, it would be.
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:running.
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:I love to run when all of us
were cooped up inside during the
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:pandemic and the gyms were closed.
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:My apartment gym was closed back
when I was in news in Chattanooga.
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:How was I supposed to exercise?
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:So I started just running
outside and I went from running.
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:What was previously maybe two miles
at a time on the treadmill to running
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:about seven and a half miles outside
in the span of a couple of months.
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:Yeah.
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:My hips are going to thank me
for that here in a few years.
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:They already kind of do, but
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:Kipper: my ice cubes keep bouncing
out of the glass when I try that.
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:So,
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:Eryn: oh my gosh, but I love to run.
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:I actually live.
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:Right by a national
park here in Nashville.
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:That's a big hill.
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:And I torture myself by running
up and down hills any day that
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:it's not monsooning or tundra
ing here in Nashville, which
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:has been a trend as of late.
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:So I love, yeah, I love to
run and I have a kitty cat.
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:Her name is Sugar.
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:She's white and fluffy.
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:I'm surprised she hasn't
made an appearance yet.
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:So I like to spend time with her
and she's a great, um, Calming
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:presence in my life as someone who
is naturally extremely energetic.
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:Having a cat that just sits
there really brings you down.
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:Yeah, I'd say running my kitty cat.
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:And then every once in a while I'll
bake some desserts for my friends.
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:Dave: BRANDwidth On Demand
Cooper, professional fan girls.
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:Somebody you'd love to hear from.
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:We'd love to hear from you.
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:Kipper: And if you're enjoying this or
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:you to spread the word so others can too.
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:Just tell him to follow Brandwith On
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:that she sees for station people
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:Dave: Eryn Cooper, professional fan
girl is with us today and Eryn, from
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:your multimedia vantage point and
living as you do in that multimedia
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:world, what is the one opportunity
that you see for radio...for station
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:people, that most miss, because
it's 'hiding in plain sight'?
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:Eryn: I would say it's providing
additional storytelling resources that
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:we're all encouraging each other to use,
but maybe aren't something that we all
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:just naturally are subscribed to or have.
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:For instance, I was, this is a great
question because I was talking To
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:a bunch of my radio colleagues in a
group text about this the other day,
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:things like Adobe suite 55 a month,
I think, and that gives you access
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:to Adobe Audition, Premiere Pro,
After Effects, and numerous other.
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:Adobe apps that allow you to edit
audio, video, and make graphics,
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:motion graphics for different things.
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:If radio stations really want to embrace
social media and bring people in through
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:that way and establish a larger and
newer fan base, providing the resources
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:for your talent, who are often the
people, not only being your talent.
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:But creating and thinking of and posting
these social media things, giving them
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:the resources to do that, to edit their
things, and maybe even having a workshop
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:where if there is one talent in particular
who seems to really have the social media
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:thing down, during that staff meeting
that you have once a quarter or once
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:a month, Make that a workshop for that
talent to really shine with their skills
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:and show other talent or producers who
may not be as well versed and encourage
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:them to learn from each other and
take that time to grow your talent.
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:And their abilities on the clock
and using that, those resources.
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:Cause one of the number one things I
hear is, Oh, I've never used that tool.
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:Or I don't know how to use that tool.
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:Or how do you think of these things?
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:I think if we're going to encourage people
to do these things, then the station
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:should fill it, facilitate time to learn.
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:And then.
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:Those tools that can make the highest
quality products for those skills.
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:Dave: Our thanks to Eryn Cooper.
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:She is amazing.
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:Kipper.
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:We have links to all of her
stuff and more in the show notes.
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:Just scroll down on your phone.
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:Kipper: As always, thanks to exec
producer, Cindy Huber, and to our
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:associate producer, Hannah B, who
suggested that we had to talk to
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:BRANDwidth On Demand and boy, are we glad.
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:Dave: You bet.
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:Great stuff.
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:Kipper: Now
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:Dave: coming up next.
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:2 Guys Named Chris: Hi, it's
Chris Kelly and Chris Dimm.
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:We're members of the Two Guys
Named Chris show and great to
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:be on BRANDwidth On Demand.
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:Coming up, we're going to talk
about our history in radio.
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:Chris #2: And this is
my first ever podcast.
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:So if a cat jumps on my
lap, don't be surprised.
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:Watch for it.
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:Dave: That's a wrap, Kipper.
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:In the new One Minute Martinizing,
we'll take a look at the
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:professional art of Practice.
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:While athletes do it, musical acts are
at the top of their game, practice, just
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:two examples there, pros who practice.
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:Uh, do you?
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:I'm Dave Martin.
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:Kipper: And I'm Kipper McGee.
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:May all your BRANDwidth be wide.